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Post by swissnavy on Jul 18, 2012 2:06:43 GMT -5
I want to start studying Clash of Dreadnoughts and play on tournament level as well - but cannot find any info about repeating tournaments, preferably in Europe - do You have info/links?
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Post by warchariot on Jul 18, 2012 8:53:04 GMT -5
I want to start studying Clash of Dreadnoughts and play on tournament level as well - but cannot find any info about repeating tournaments, preferably in Europe - do You have info/links? Sorry, I've never heard of tournaments with any of Harry's games. I don't think it is designed as a tournament game, but more as a historical or "what if" game. You can run campaigns with the system, but that doesn't sit well with tournaments either. So at cons, they are one off games. Good luck
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Post by stenicplus on Sept 18, 2012 6:27:31 GMT -5
Yeap, never heard of toutnaments for it in the UK.
I too am not sure it would lend itself to tournaments since whilst there is a points system it's hard to provide for balance forces.
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Post by admiralskipashita on Sept 18, 2012 19:39:47 GMT -5
I think Rise of the Battleship would lend itself to tournaments better than Clash or Battleship Row simply because there are no subs or aircraft to deal with.
I woudl think Battleship Row would be especially difficult to police. I could see an American or Japanese player building a carrier force and plastering the opponent before the game even begins and then running away.
Clash of the Dreadnaughts might not be too difficult.
Obviously some guidelines would have to be given so that all competition fleets could participate equally in all scenarios. Maybe not, we'd have to try it to see.
If they can do it with FLAMES OF WAR I don't see why you couldn't do it with a naval game.
Just taking Rise of the Battleship as an example you'd probably have to have a pre-1900 section and a post-1900 section. You'd want to limit the number of destroyer/torpedo boats. (?)
Then you have to come up with some standardized scenarios.
1. Meeting Engagement 2. Troop Convoy 3. Night Fight 4. Commerce raiders 5. Running fight 6. Meat Grinder with delayed arrivals randomly generated
Maybe scouting is a factor you want to encourage so the side with the most points spent on destroyers and protected cruisers gets some kind of advantage regarding deployment.
If the points system works then I don't know that you have to restrict the number of battleships or armored cruisers. That should police itself, especially if you require at least two divisions of two ships each.
You might require more than one division to encourage players not to put all their eggs in one basket and build fleets with a little variety.
Maybe minimum of two divisions of at least two ships each with up to one destroyer/torpedo boat flotilla of 4-8 boats, cruiser escort optional.
I think it could be done in 1/2400 on a standard 4x6 table. Probably not in my preferred scale of 1/1250.
It's a interesting idea though. I do enjoy tournaments.
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Post by admiralskipashita on Oct 13, 2012 8:39:54 GMT -5
I have been giving this topic quite a bit of thought and I think it could be done in 2400 scale quite easily.
We'd want to test some extremes...like a small battleship/armored cruiser force versus a larger cuiser/destroyer/torpedo boat force to see if the contest was fairly even.
I think you'd have to limit entries to the three main periods.
Gripping Beast hold a couple of annual Warhammer Historical tournaments a year and they are "period specific" The last one they held was late medievals, 1350-1500 or something like that which would cover the 100 years war, Wars of the Roses and the Burgundian/Swiss wars of Charles the Bold.
They have done earlier periods in the past.
So you'd probably want to limit you tournament to Pre-Dreadnaught, Dreadnaught or World War Two. I don't know if you'd need to sub-divide the WWII period between early and late.
Then folks could make up a fleet to match the points limit of the games and off you'd go.
Scenarios as suggested above would be played and points awarded. A Swiss style tournament works best with the first round being luck of the draw and the subsequent rounds matching winners against winners and losers against losers, etc.
I love tournaments and it sound alike a lot of fun. The Pre-Dreadnaughts especially lend themselves to this format because it is all surface action with no submarines or airplanes.
Just a few more random thoughts.
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Post by admiralskipashita on Oct 13, 2012 8:54:40 GMT -5
Let's say 500 points for the tournament fleets. What kind of fleet would I field?
FIRST DIVISION Mikasa (Flag) (BB) 170 points Shikishima (BB) 132 points SECOND DIVISION Asama (CA) 69 Tsushima (CL) 14 points Takasago (CL) 30 points DESTROYER FLOTILLA (8) 30 Naniwa (CL) Destroyer Escort 20
495 points.
What would your fleet look like?
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