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Post by berlichtingen on Jul 21, 2010 3:17:05 GMT -5
Greetings all,
I'm building up my Russo-Japanese fleets with Panzerschiffe ships. Ran into a bit of a stumbling block with a couple of ships in the Japanese 6th Division. Panzerschiffe doesn't have the protected cruisers Akitsushima or Izumi. I was wondering if anyone would know if there were any classes that would be visually similar to either of these that I could use as replacements?
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Post by Bluebear on Jul 21, 2010 5:19:27 GMT -5
I see that Viking Forge has both cruisers in their line . . . at $5.95 each though (about twice the price of many Panzerschiffe vessels). I don't know what they charge for shipping.
-- Jeff
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Post by berlichtingen on Jul 21, 2010 5:41:11 GMT -5
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Post by TheDreadnought on Jul 21, 2010 7:35:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd heard they've been having some problems lately.
You can try going through the Panzerschiffe catalog. . .
Akitsushima was a 2 funnel cruiser with a twin mount fore and aft.
Izumi was a 2 funnel cruiser with a single mount fore and aft.
Just go through and look at the pics of other protected cruisers - even from other countries - and see if you can find ones that match that description.
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Post by warchariot on Jul 21, 2010 9:51:51 GMT -5
TMP has this posted with their URL:
There may be a problem at the company's website. We're detecting the error state DNS Entry not found or Server not responding.
I lloked around and their stockist don't seem to be carrying their lines anymore.
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Post by shigure on Jul 21, 2010 20:12:26 GMT -5
As both Akitsushima & Izumi were rearmed with 6" main guns before the Russo-Japanese war the IJN Suma class or Austrian L-147 Zenta class may be good stand-ins.
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Post by Bluebear on Jul 22, 2010 3:06:07 GMT -5
I would not have any problems with stand-in vessels of similar appearance . . . for one thing, the fellows I game with wouldn't know the difference . . . and if they did, they wouldn't care either.
Close counts.
-- Jeff
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Post by warchariot on Jul 22, 2010 9:52:58 GMT -5
Sometimes you don't have a chioce. I have cut off and added on funnels to ships trying to make them look close. I still am looking for a 1/2400 ship for the Otranto for Coronel. I wouldn't mind one in 1/1200 for that matter.  |
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Post by berlichtingen on Jul 23, 2010 2:13:16 GMT -5
Thanks all. I ordered a Suma for the Akitsushima and a Naniwa for the Izumi. Now I need to get some stiff, small gauge wire, to make masts
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Post by Bluebear on Jul 23, 2010 4:19:04 GMT -5
berlichtingen, While I've not bothered with masts myself, take a look at the WTJ site linked below. In the white "Information Links" section, under "Historical Naval Miniatures" the first three links are: Photo Gallery, Predreadnought Paint Guide and Installing Masts: www.wtj.com/store/Both the "Installing Masts" and "Paint Guide" should be of use to you. Personally I'm painting both navies in Pre-War colors . . . to make identification visually much easier . . . but you will make your own choice. I hope that the above link helps. -- Jeff |
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Post by warchariot on Jul 23, 2010 13:39:43 GMT -5
Nice link, I like the information here, but the space ships are a bit unusal.
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Post by willieb on Jul 28, 2010 13:22:08 GMT -5
Sometimes you don't have a chioce. I have cut off and added on funnels to ships trying to make them look close. I still am looking for a 1/2400 ship for the Otranto for Coronel. I wouldn't mind one in 1/1200 for that matter. The Otranto's identical sister ship Otway is available in 1/2400th scale by Alnavco. www.alnavco.com/SBLINER.asp |
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Post by willieb on Jul 28, 2010 13:33:32 GMT -5
TMP has this posted with their URL: There may be a problem at the company's website. We're detecting the error state DNS Entry not found or Server not responding. I lloked around and their stockist don't seem to be carrying their lines anymore. The Viking Forge website is back up: that's the good news Alas, they don't accept PayPAl or credit cards and cheques or money orders are a no-no. Too bad since they have a few models others don't have. Like Carnarvon and Minotaur for the Falklands or the Emden Chase. |
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Post by warchariot on Jul 28, 2010 15:21:58 GMT -5
Sometimes you don't have a chioce. I have cut off and added on funnels to ships trying to make them look close. I still am looking for a 1/2400 ship for the Otranto for Coronel. I wouldn't mind one in 1/1200 for that matter. The Otranto's identical sister ship Otway is available in 1/2400th scale by Alnavco. www.alnavco.com/SBLINER.aspThanks, I'll take a look! |
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Post by Bluebear on Jul 28, 2010 19:06:10 GMT -5
Those Alnavco liners are excessively expensive for 1/2400 ships . . . they are about twice the price of Houston's 1/1000 scale ships. I'd rather use a substitute myselft.
-- Jeff
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Post by warchariot on Jul 28, 2010 23:51:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I thoght they were 1/1200 at first, I don't need something to fancy for the ship, just something close.
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