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Post by shellback on Mar 4, 2012 23:26:01 GMT -5
Hey all, So being new to the Naval warfare element I'm not overly familiar with how inches translate into range at 1/2400 scale. I can assume ( an we all know how you spell assume ) NT was written for the 1/2400 scale when looking at ship data cards, and gun data.. . . Riight? Having only one pre-dred game, and in 1/3000 scale at that, the ranges are way different than what I can look up in historical battles. Reason I ask is I just read the AAR for the Torch scenario. While I understand the scenario is not from a NT product, and thus may encompass different rules. I struggle to see how a "each ship is within 500 yard, and the American taskforce starts 19 miles south..." Equates to a 4x6 game table when I didn't see a scale reference chart in the base rules.
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Post by TheDreadnought on Mar 5, 2012 11:27:26 GMT -5
That's because in naval gaming the ships are always out of scale to the true range.
The ranges are calibrated at 500 yds/inch to make 1/2400 scale models 'look right' on the tabletop. But, if you're playing with a 1/3000 scale miniature, or even 1/6000 scale, you shouldn't change the scales at all because you're getting closer at each step to "true scale" of the models.
The only thing with the pre-dreads I suggested in Rise of the Battleship II was actually a doubling on the ranges (halving the scale) because the miniatures had to get really close when using a scale setting essentially pegged to WWI engagement distances.
So, short version is. . . for 3000 scale models either leave the rules exactly as-is, or use the range modification rule in RotB2. . . but either way is good.
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Post by afilter on Mar 5, 2012 11:57:04 GMT -5
To add to Harry's explination I have played Pre-draeads with my 1/2400 ships as well as a club's 1/1000 ships and each time the ranges were the same the ships were just that much more out of scale. When using larger models like 1/1000 I do support Harry's concept of doubleing ranges otherwise the large models are literally on top of each other when at Torp range.
Otherwise I play all my WWII scenarios with 1/1800 scale models and WWI and Pre-deads with 1/2400 fleets and use the ranges as published.
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Post by shellback on Mar 5, 2012 20:53:18 GMT -5
Thank you for the perfectly simple scale reference. One inch = 500 yards. So for the above scenario: Each ship starts with a roughly one inch separation, and the American task force would be roughly 5.54 feet south. Hehe, even a retired Marine can figure these values now
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