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Post by jonathan1971 on Jun 5, 2010 17:46:49 GMT -5
1. Is Naval Thunder good with other sizes or is it only usable for one? I'm forced to be fiscally responsible, in other words my wife will freak out if I drop a couple hundred on minis, but I found a site with some 2-D models for download. The catch is they models are 1/1200 so I ask the question.
2. I see you have the major players covered for WWII. Have you given any consideration for the Dutch? I know they weren't a major player but the did fight around Java a couple of times. It would be nice to know that you have something for them, for history's sake...;-)
Thanks
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Post by TheDreadnought on Jun 5, 2010 19:58:03 GMT -5
You could easily use the rules with 1200 scale models. Really the size of your play area is the limiting factor on model size, not the rules.
As written, the rules will handle anything from 1/1800 (War at Sea scale) to 1/6000 scale.
For 1200 scale, if space is not a concern, I would just just go ahead and double all the ranges and speeds.
If space is a concern and you want to squeeze it down, leave the ranges and speeds the same. After all, Yamato's guns have a range of 80", so even at 1200 scale that's quite a distance.
On the other hand - if they are downloadable files that you print out yourself, I'd think you'd be able to print them 1/2 sized and make your play area smaller.
Its likely we'll come back and do some of the minor navies for both wars. In the meantime, with the hundreds of classes the books cover, it wouldn't be too hard to find something pretty close to the Dutch ships. You could even transplant the gun statline from one class onto another class that was of similar size and protection to the Dutch ship you're trying to emulate.
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Post by Bluebear on Jun 6, 2010 4:30:48 GMT -5
Jonathan1971, Another option might be the Panzerschiffe 1/2400 scale ships. They are resin cast and inexpensive. I note that in their WWII section they list the Dutch ships that fought in the Battle of the Java Sea. The light cruisers are $3 each (they list Java, De Ruyter and Tromp class CLs); and they have the Eversten class DDs for $1.50 each. You would have to take a look at what other ships you wanted, but they are generally relatively inexpensive. I will note that I don't have any yet, but am thinking about getting some for the Russo-Japanese War. Here is a link to their website . . . and the Dutch ships are in the WWII Other category: www.panzerschiffe.com/Catalog.html-- Jeff |
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Post by warchariot on Jun 6, 2010 10:22:34 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, I forget about Panzerschiffe has a resource site. |
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Post by jonathan1971 on Jun 7, 2010 18:30:51 GMT -5
thanks for the input everyone.
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Post by jonathan1971 on Jun 7, 2010 18:32:15 GMT -5
One more question.....
Will Clash of Dreadnaughts work for Span-Am as well?
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Post by TheDreadnought on Jun 7, 2010 19:02:05 GMT -5
Clash of Dreadnoughts covers WWI
Rise of the Battleship is an expansion that provides additional rules for pre-dreadnought actions and data cards for the Russo Japanese War
Rise of the Battleship II is forthcoming and provides additional data cards for Rise of the Battleship. Both the U.S. and Spain will be in there.
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Post by Bluebear on Jun 7, 2010 19:07:02 GMT -5
The Pre-Dreadnought period isn't really covered by CoD. The Russo-Japanese War is covered by the "Rise of the Battleship" (and it makes a few tweaks to the CoD rules.
Hopefully the Spanish-American War will be covered by the upcoming "Rise of the Battleship II" . . . but the Dreadnought will have to answer that for sure.
I think that you will still need CoD since the RoB rules (and presumably RoB2) merely adjust certain aspects of CoD and do not contain all of the rules.
-- Jeff
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Post by Bluebear on Jun 7, 2010 19:07:56 GMT -5
Aha! The Dreadnought beat me to the punch on answering.
-- Jeff
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Post by warchariot on Jun 22, 2010 12:16:40 GMT -5
Clash of Dreadnoughts covers WWI Rise of the Battleship is an expansion that provides additional rules for pre-dreadnought actions and data cards for the Russo Japanese War Rise of the Battleship II is forthcoming and provides additional data cards for Rise of the Battleship. Both the U.S. and Spain will be in there. So how soon is forthcoming? Late Summer? Fall?  |
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Post by TheDreadnought on Jun 22, 2010 15:30:58 GMT -5
Late summer hopefully.
I'm doing concurrent development on RotBII and 2 different CB fleet books that I hope to get out this fall.
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Post by warchariot on Jun 22, 2010 17:27:59 GMT -5
Busy is good!
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Post by Bluebear on Jun 22, 2010 18:24:13 GMT -5
Harry,
Please keep in mind that we are learning more and more about Space every day; while the Pre-Dread period is fading farther and farther into the past . . . so it might be wise to publish "Rise of the Battleship II" first before information is lost.
This, of course, has nothing to do with the fact that I want RoB2 NOW!!!
-- Jeff
PS, Okay, I admit that it has everything to do with my wanting RoB2 now.
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Post by TheDreadnought on Jun 22, 2010 22:09:26 GMT -5
LOL! To be honest its mostly about finding the time to sit down and do it, and not getting distracted by "research" for CB, driving my new car around, frolicking in the sun, reading my new kindle, or endlessly surfing forums waiting for somebody to post.  I already owe one of my clients a playtest rules summary for his fleet book that I promised him this weekend and did not deliver. In my defense, it turned out to be a most unusual weekend. But even so. . . I'm really behind. Part of the problem of doing this as a hobby and trying to keep it as a hobby rather than turn it into the legit business it keeps trying to make itself into. |
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Post by warchariot on Jun 22, 2010 23:47:21 GMT -5
"LOL! To be honest its mostly about finding the time to sit down and do it, and not getting distracted by "research" for CB, driving my new car around, frolicking in the sun, reading my new kindle, or endlessly surfing forums waiting for somebody to post." I hear that, but it's back to working on hobby stuff the rest of the week, right...promise? |
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Post by Bluebear on Jun 22, 2010 23:54:05 GMT -5
Hmpf! You are probably taking time out for inconsequential things like sleeping and eating, aren't you? You're older now and don't need the same amount of sleep as a child . . . and if you are like most gamers, you can stand to miss a meal or three.
So I don't want to hear any more excuses; I want to hear you chanting the mantra "RoB Two, I gotta do. RoB Two, I gotta do. . . ." . . . and then I want you to follow through on "RoB Two" and get it done.
Are we quite clear on that?
-- Jeff (grinning)
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Post by TheDreadnought on Jun 23, 2010 10:00:58 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by cjcafiero on Apr 22, 2011 19:40:50 GMT -5
Quick rules question...if I have a line ahead formation of mixed ships; some with battleship moves, some with cruiser, can the cruisers (ie. the formation itself) move together in the battleship phase? Seems otherwsie they would be bunching together and possibly overunning each other...
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Post by afilter on Apr 22, 2011 22:44:24 GMT -5
Quick rules question...if I have a line ahead formation of mixed ships; some with battleship moves, some with cruiser, can the cruisers (ie. the formation itself) move together in the battleship phase? Seems otherwsie they would be bunching together and possibly overunning each other... All ships in the same formation move together with the ships you have the most of. So a cruiser with BBs would lose its move advantage and move in the BB step. HTH, |
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