HMS Abdiel class - BR

[fluorophil]

A class of six fast minelayers, sometimes referred to as cruiser-minelayers, in service from 1941 - 1972. They were very effective ships in their intended role, the combination of high internal capacity and exceptionally high speed meant that they were extremely valuable fast transports. As such for much of their service they were used for running supplies; particularly men and matériel to isolated garrisons such as during the siege of Tobruk and Malta in Operation Harpoon. (Wikipedia)

Ships in class: Abdiel, Latona, Manxman, Welshman, Ariadne, Apollo.
Something to throw into the mix - an interception scenario in the Med perhaps?

My references (mainly books - however I have more references than Wikipedia - including theirs!) :
Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1922 - 1946. (2006 reprint)
British and Empire Warships of the Second World War. (1998) (H.T. Lenton)
British Cruisers: Two World Wars and After. (2011) (N. Friedman)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdiel_class_minelayer

Proposed stats:
Abdiel Class Minelayer (9+)
Hull points:11 (2650 tons) - I am using Conway's because that's what Harry has based every other ship on...
Move step: Destroyer
Shoot step: Destroyer
Fire Control: RDR
Armor: 4
SAV: 1
AA/ASW: 3/0
Speed:10 (39.75 kts)
Weapon:
Secondary: 4in/45 x 6 (3 x 2)
Primary Gun Data:
Short: Med: Long: Ext:
Pen: DMG:

Secondary Guns:
Short: 8 Med: 16 Long: 24 Ext:32
Pen:1 DMG:2
FPS (4) (2 x 2)
APS (2) (1 x 2)
Aircraft: Nil.
TT: Nil
Mines: Up to 156

The above stats are provisional and hopefully the catalyst for discussion. As always, if you disagree with me, constructive criticism is always welcome...

[regiamarina]

Don't know the ship well enough to comment but it certainly looks quite close. Just one question though, why does it move in the cruiser phase but fire in the destroyer phase?

[fluorophil]

What was I thinking? Actually, I have given this a fair amount of thought...
My thought processes were/are that while it was very fast, it was only armed like a destroyer with attendant fire control. The ships were a little larger (400 ft) than a contemporary destroyer (L-M class 360 ft, Tribal 370ft) - maybe I felt/feel that she needs to be somewhere in between.. Battlecruisers (Move: Cruiser / Shoot: Battleship) and Carriers (Move: Battleship / Shoot: Cruiser) are also in-between. I could be wrong...In any case, it's Harry who ultimately decides how it should be treated... (paging Admiral Dreadnaught...)
Congratulations on your promotion by the way, it's time that the ANZACs made their presence felt!

[regiamarina]

I see. I was thinking it was something along those lines but with it's larger size and speed wouldn't it be something like a Mogador or Fantasque class destroyer leader. These have been classed as destroyers by Harry despite their larger size based upon their performance and role. Not saying you're wrong, just throwing out another idea.

[fluorophil]

Looks like I might just have to do a little more homework (and it seems that I should look outside the RN)...will have a think about it and get back to you - I do really appreciate your input!

[regiamarina]

I always find it handy to look at other fleets, there's usually a ship somewhere that Harry has done that might not be an exact match but can give you the basis for you're own design. It's what I had to do when researching the AA for the Dutch ships. Glad to help.

[fluorophil]

Good point - when I was researching for the Lion class projected battleships (the 16in guns were never built) I looked at the Iowa / S. Dakota / N. Carolina stats as well as the Nelson class - I did do that with those, but it never occurred to me to do that with this ship! As Captain Mainwaring said..."You stupid boy..." I might have to ask Harry on what he thinks...Cheers!

[TheDreadnought]

At that displacement, speed, and armament, I'd definitely move/shoot as a DD.

[fluorophil]

Your wish is my command, O exalted one!
In all seriousness, thank you both for guidance (and stimulating good discussion!)...