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Post by afilter on Oct 19, 2010 18:40:51 GMT -5
Has anyone attempted this? I like many of the panzerschiffe models, but some lack certain details like masts. At NAVCON someone brought the 1/1000 Houston models. Very nice, but with a huge price to match. They have a very nice photo gallery which I plan to reference when my PS Russo-Japanese fleet arrives. My thought is to add some of the details to the PS models such as masts using my pin vice drill and styrene. Here is a sample of the Houston model of Mikasa I plan to use as a guide:  Russian TZESSAREVITCH:  I already have the tools and the material, just wondering if anyone has some suggestions or has attempted this before. TIA, |
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Post by warchariot on Oct 19, 2010 19:15:22 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by Bluebear on Oct 19, 2010 20:38:36 GMT -5
afilter, I've not tried it myself, but there is a pretty good description on what and how to do it on the WTJ website. Go to the link below; under "Information Links" (main column), find the "Historical Naval Miniatures" heading; under it one of the subjects is "Installing Masts" . . . click on that: www.wtj.com/store/The information is for their 1/3000 ships, but it shouldn't be any different for 1/2400 vessels. -- Jeff |
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Post by afilter on Oct 19, 2010 20:56:33 GMT -5
afilter, I've not tried it myself, but there is a pretty good description on what and how to do it on the WTJ website. Go to the link below; under "Information Links" (main column), find the "Historical Naval Miniatures" heading; under it one of the subjects is "Installing Masts" . . . click on that: www.wtj.com/store/The information is for their 1/3000 ships, but it shouldn't be any different for 1/2400 vessels. -- Jeff Perfect...that is exactly what I was thinking except just using styrene. |
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Post by regiamarina on Oct 19, 2010 22:02:59 GMT -5
Afilter I modified my CnC WW2 Italians by adding masts, Fairly simple with a pin vice and thin wire just take your time. Also been looking to modifiy some panzerschiffe models by using the GHQ turrets. Haven't tried it yet but found this gamer's site which was really helpful. www.adpublishing.de/html/hyperdetailing.html Regards Martin |
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Post by shigure on Oct 19, 2010 22:57:33 GMT -5
Both were good links. I have used GHQ turrets to modify PS ships. Just have to be careful with the Dremel. I usually just try to get it close and then use a good file to remove the rest of the resin turret.
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Post by afilter on Oct 19, 2010 23:11:50 GMT -5
OK, so I have to ask where are you getting the GHQ Turrets?
I know each model comes with a couple extra, but you still have to buy the models. It is not the turret detail I take issue with so much as lack of superstructure.
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Post by shigure on Oct 20, 2010 0:01:44 GMT -5
Many years ago, I purchased many GHG, CinC, & Superior models, so I had many extra turrets, cranes, catapults, etc. My 1/2400 collections numbers in the many hundreds of models.
The superstructure on resin cast models made by PS is limited by the flexible mold process used. Some details must also be made slightly out of scale to allow for the flexible mold. Deep undercuts are also bad. Fine detail may result in breakage when removing the model from the mold. At least that is what I was told by Dave at PS years ago. So unless he has changed the molding process the resin product & flexible mold used by PS does have some limitations vs. the use of metal.
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Post by regiamarina on Oct 20, 2010 5:18:49 GMT -5
Afilter
I'm in the same boat as Shigure. I got a big job lot of unopened GHQ ships off ebay years ago and each pack has quite a few extras. I've added cranes, catapults and floatplanes to all my ships thanks to all the extras the GHQ ones came with. The extra turrets I have are just the left overs from other ships.
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Martin
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Post by afilter on Oct 20, 2010 8:24:36 GMT -5
That is what I figured. So far I only own 4 GHQ capital ships for WWI. Using my WoTC models for WWII. PS models are what they are. I am OK with the turrets, using a wash and dry brushing they paint up pretty nice. Some of the capital ships just seem a bit naked without cage/tripod masts is all. You can tell what they are by the gun arrangements, but I just prefer a bit more detail which is why I went with GHQ for my USN BBs and may do the same for some other capital ships as time goes on. Don't plna to model entire fleets just cetain smaller scenarios and possibly some what if actions. Jutland is not in the budget.  Once my Russ-Japanese fleets arrive I am going to give it a try the mods a try as those masts seem pretty simple. I will post some before and after pics for your opinions compared to the Houston models. |
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Post by shigure on Oct 20, 2010 8:53:56 GMT -5
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Post by afilter on Oct 20, 2010 9:00:22 GMT -5
Yes, some look pretty good, it is hit and miss probably as a result the molding process as previously stated. I am very happy with the UK and German Cruisers and Battlecruisers I own which did not have alot of mast anyway. |
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Post by afilter on Nov 17, 2010 15:08:04 GMT -5
Here is a sample of what I have been able to do so far with some styrene rod and tubing.   I plan to get some thinner wire and go back an touch up some of my WWI Battlecruisers with tripods. and simple masts. I am thinking something along the lines of this 1/1800 scale WoTC model.  |
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Post by warchariot on Nov 17, 2010 23:35:56 GMT -5
If you go with thin wire, I have used a small glass bead from places like Hobby Lobby as the crow's nest part of the mast. they are about the right size and paint up easy.
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Post by afilter on Nov 18, 2010 8:49:17 GMT -5
If you go with thin wire, I have used a small glass bead from places like Hobby Lobby as the crow's nest part of the mast. they are about the right size and paint up easy. Thanks for the tip...we have a Hobby Lobby in town. Is that were you get wire from as well? |
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Post by warchariot on Nov 19, 2010 19:18:04 GMT -5
Yes! Hobby Lobby carries some wire and rod. A model shop would also have wire.
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Post by afilter on Nov 19, 2010 21:03:51 GMT -5
Yes! Hobby Lobby carries some wire and rod. A model shop would also have wire. Found some wire...it actually glues together better than I thought. Still need to fins some beads, but headed in the right direction. Thanks |
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Post by Bluebear on Nov 20, 2010 0:39:23 GMT -5
Aaron,
Craft stores usually have a wide variety of beads . . . and some "dollar" stores do as well.
-- Jeff
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Post by warchariot on Nov 20, 2010 10:05:41 GMT -5
You might also look at Wal-mart/K-mart. My wife says mine are size 15 or smaller, bigger the number the small they are. If you don't care about color, you should be able to get more than you can use for a couple of dollars or less.
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Post by afilter on Nov 20, 2010 10:18:09 GMT -5
You might also look at Wal-mart/K-mart. My wife says mine are size 15 or smaller, bigger the number the small they are. If you don't care about color, you should be able to get more than you can use for a couple of dollars or less. Thanks again for the tip....I just have not made it to Hobby Lobby yet....shape is definately more important than color as they will be painted anyway. |
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