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Post by afilter on Oct 19, 2010 16:36:37 GMT -5
Stopped by the LGS today to pick up more bases....definately will need more bases.
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Post by afilter on Oct 19, 2010 9:32:46 GMT -5
First a thanks to Bluebear Jeff for informing y'all about my efforts and me about this group. I have completed all the Russian and Japanese ships that I have been able to identify as being directly involved in the two August 1904 battles -- Yellow Sea and Ulsan -- as well as the possible "early" reinforcements from the Baltic Fleet that were in the Red Sea and at Djibouti at the start of the war. I will host a recreation of the Battle of the Yellow Sea for my wargames group on Saturday, Nov 6 using a variant of a rule set one of our members developed for WW2 naval games which was then modified by another group member for his "Remember the Maine" game. As far as destroyers, I've decided to group 3 or 4 destroyers on a 2" (50mm) square base. These will either be a Japanese division or part of a Russian flotilla. They will attack and take losses as a unit rather than as individual ships like the battleships and cruisers. Since destroyers were relatively ineffective against full-strength combatants, I'm presuming that they will be used to harry and sink any stragglers from the opposing battle lines. But we'll see. Sometimes my fellow wargamers don't do what one expects them to do. :^) Later, Jim Jim, Excellent work! As for basing DDs I would encourage you to use the same size base as your battleship. Reason being that if you ever decide to make the transition to NT your models will be ready. Your blog is an excellent resource that I will go back to several times as I expand my Russo-Japanese forces. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by afilter on Oct 19, 2010 8:31:52 GMT -5
Afilter, That will be interesting to me too; but remember that he is using some "home grown" rules (Not NT: RotB) . . . still I really appreciate his ship photos . . . and have 18 more Panzerschiffe's currently on order myself (I already have the "big six" for each side of the Battle of the Yellow Sea -- as see on the link below). jeffsnavy.blogspot.com/2010/07/first-painting-of-panzerschiffes.html-- Jeff Yes, that is where I am currently at based on your advice. Once I get the first 12 done I will see where I want to go. The reference material is great especially with the PS model numbers which will make future orders really easy. So what did you decide to add to the big 12? I was plannimg to get the 7 ships for Battle of Ulsan next.
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Post by afilter on Oct 18, 2010 22:57:00 GMT -5
Thanks for this post....I currently have 12 on order....this is very informational and inspiring to build both fleets. I am curious how he will do DDs....The rules indicate one base per flotilla.
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Post by afilter on Oct 18, 2010 21:22:36 GMT -5
Just wondering how many own WoTC War at Sea and are now using their models for NT? I thought it was very clever to include the 1/1800 scale in the intro of NT since WoTC is the only company producing that scale that I am aware of. If you are not aware there is entire fan based forum devoted to WoTC AAM(WWII land game) and War at Sea called the foruMINI. aaminis.myfastforum.org/index.phpNaval thunder is also a regular topic of discussion in the WaS forum as well as the general wargaming section. I plan to use my WoTC models for NT WWII games just wondering if anyone else has made the transistion. WaS is nice for a beer and preztels game and to break people into naval gaming, but NT offers so much more when you are ready.
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Post by afilter on Oct 18, 2010 21:13:37 GMT -5
Very nice, the wash really brings out the detail on the GHQ models. Are you using a macro lens setting to get the close-up detail shots with your camera? Thanks....just a simple $100 Nikon point and shoot zoomed in. It really brings out details I have a hard time seeing with the naked eye. More than once I have uploaded a pic and noticed a small brush error that shows up in the pic and had to go back and touch up the model.
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Post by afilter on Oct 18, 2010 21:04:27 GMT -5
That might work....the majority of my ships are actually mounted on thin metal strips. A sew of the longer ones are on styrene, but I can easily put small metal tabs on the bottom.
I have seen sheets of magnetic material (use to have some for my 15mm ACW armies) with one side that has adhesive so any box can be given a magnetic base.
I will check into that.
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Post by afilter on Oct 18, 2010 18:07:59 GMT -5
Ships: Vary Manufacturer: GHQ Scale: 1/2400 USN Cassin Class: RN M Class: German B 109 Class:
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Post by afilter on Oct 17, 2010 20:00:41 GMT -5
Did you paint the planes in the pic above or do they come pre-painted? Great job whoever did it. What scale - 1/144? Those are all pre-painted WWI Wings of War 1/144. I have done a numver of WWII Wings of War 1/200.
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Post by afilter on Oct 17, 2010 19:23:20 GMT -5
Will do....If I go that route I will put them in upright and make the spaces the size of the bases so the sips themselves should not contact the sides.
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Post by afilter on Oct 17, 2010 17:57:35 GMT -5
Thanks for posting.....looking forward to my order arriving.
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Post by afilter on Oct 17, 2010 17:53:05 GMT -5
I used the Plano boxes also, but put down some double backed tape in the trays to keep the models in place. The foam trays look interesting. Do you have to make the cutouts to fit the models or do they come pre-cut? They come pre-cut in small squares so you just pluck out the shapes you need.
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Post by afilter on Oct 16, 2010 20:12:44 GMT -5
what do you use to store and transport your ships? Up to now I have used plano boxes for my WoTC models as they are plastic and very durable. Found out my PS and GHQ are not as durable when I opening up a box today to discover several smoke stacks broken on some of my PS ships. Fortunately all the pieces were present and I was able to successfully repair everything. Now considering purchasing some more foam trays for my Army transporter that I use for Wings of War. Saw someone else using these for ACW ships at NAVCON. So What do you use?
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Post by afilter on Oct 16, 2010 6:33:22 GMT -5
Are you using a "standard" base size? Or does it depend upon the ship? I'm looking at using a rather thick base (3/8") for my Panzerschiffes . . . because I want them to be handled by the bases and not the ships. In addition my plan is to label the ships on the sides of the base, not on the top . . . although admittedly I haven't tried this out yet. I'm also debating the length of bases . . . I'm currently thinking of 4" bases . . . but that might be a bit long . . . still they'd look good in line, with a reasonable length between ships. But my indecision is one of the reasons why I haven't cut any bases yet. -- Jeff Yes and no. The standard bases I use ar some 1"x3" metal bases I had left over from my 15mm ACW days that I aquire and a store called The Last Square. When I did my first PS ships I had some laying around and these worked great. Some of the larger PS ships (Battle cruisers)are longer than that, so I use 1" x whatever styrene in those cases. They all still line up nice width wise some are just longer. I saw the thicker bases you are talking about at NAVCON last week. They make some sense, but aestetically just seemed to big to me. I am not concerend about my PS ships being handled as I apply a liberal clear coat(testors dull coat) to them anyway. The GHQ models are a bit more delacate though. Here is a sample of what I saw at NAVCON: With what I have I can always mount them to a thickergeneric base maybe even temporary using magnets if I find it is a problem. HTH,
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Post by afilter on Oct 15, 2010 23:21:11 GMT -5
Another worthy addition to your WWI USN fleet. What is your next project? Add more ships to the WWI fleet? Thanks...Next I will be working on a Russo-Japanese fleet. I have ordered 12 ships from PS. Bases are already painted and labeled. Eventually, I will add a USS New York and USS Arkansas ro my USN fleet so the 6th Battle squardon will be omplete. Then a few German heavy units so they have an opponent. First I need to burn some cordite and get a few more games in before I decide what other scenarios to model. Fortunatley I am set on WWII with my WoTC collection.
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Post by afilter on Oct 15, 2010 22:19:01 GMT -5
Ship: USS Delaware Manufacturer: GHQ Scale: 1/2400 Delaware is the last class of USN BB I need to complete my 6th Squadron (Battleship Division 9) for the Grand Fleet in WWI. USS Delaware BB-28: From Wiki: Last entry for awhile as I am now out of ships to paint.
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Post by afilter on Oct 14, 2010 22:52:27 GMT -5
Jeff, Bookmarked...Thanks a ton...if nothing else it looks like an excellent read.
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Post by afilter on Oct 14, 2010 22:50:25 GMT -5
Ship: USS Florida BB-30 Manufacturer: GHQ Scale: 1/2400 Fresh from the Dry docks USS Florida: From DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY -- NAVAL HISTORICAL CENTER:
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Post by afilter on Oct 14, 2010 20:31:31 GMT -5
Placed my order today. This will give me a chance to check out the PS Pre-dreads....assuming I will like them as well then battle of Ulsan OoB will be next. Watch out when RotB2 is released. I am definately hooked on the NT surface combat system.
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Post by afilter on Oct 14, 2010 20:28:51 GMT -5
We play both historical, random, and what I would call historically possible. Actual historical battles were rarely fought with even sides. I guess that is what makes it so interesting when a battle is won by a weaker force. Exactly....this is my hang up with some of the other games and players who insist historically based fleets/armies should be balanced. That is not history. Some of the greatest victories were accomplished by a weaker force battling against the odds.
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